Fasting – Is It Good or Bad? Do I Need to Fast on Carnivore?

To start off – below is a post containing information. Some is based on science, some is my opinion. This is not medical advice and is only for informational purposes. If you make yourself sick as a result of trying some of this, it’s on you. You’re a grown-ass adult.

I will be up front with you. I lost the majority of my weight before going near carnivore. How was this done? Weekly 72+ hour fasts and a strict ketogenic diet. I was able to drop from about 230+ pounds to 155 in about six months.

Is fasting good or bad? I think it can be both. If you’re using fasting to get back on the wagon quickly as a punishment for a weekend of sugar-bingeing…yeah that might be bad.

I think the idea that fasting has many benefits is just a gigantic billboard testament to the horrible foods humans have managed to invent in order to stuff down their throats. You can gorge yourself on donuts for 10 years, and fast it off in 6 months in a better state than before you started. I think that speaks volumes.

Do I think fasting is necessary on a carnivore diet? No, not necessarily. If you’re managing to overeat and can’t get control of your body composition, fasting is a good way to manage your calorie intake. Honestly, you may even do it intuitively by just going by your hunger. I know of many long-term carnivores that will often take a “day off” if they simply don’t have the appetite for it.

Many will advise that you shouldn’t intentionally fast while carnivorous. That you should just “trust in the process”. I think that’s a little silly. Yeah, sure, this is the optimal human diet, and your body isn’t stupid. No, it’s not stupid, but it can be slow. Taking a day to fast and kind of “reset” I find leaves me with an even clearer mind and more energy than usual. So I do it here and there.

Here’s what I really think: Understand what your goal is. Decide what you want. Put a plan together (I can help if you need a nudge), and execute it.

I haven’t fasted much since my hand injury in 2017. But right now I’m carrying a little more bodyfat than I want to, based on taking some advice that I now don’t really think agreed with me very much. So right now I’m feasting heavily as I was on lifting days, couple pounds of meat, some butter, and a dozen eggs. On my off days / cardio days I’ll fast – just for now. It’s a short-term thing to see where I end up body comp and strength-wise after a few weeks. Today I had a heavy workout about 32 hours fasted in which I went up in weight or reps, or both since the last session. Then again, I’ve been lifting fasted for a couple years now, it’s not really surprising. I’ve done 5-day splits while on a 5 day fast with no loss in strength or endurance.

In conclusion – fasting is fine, when done properly, accompanied by a proper diet, and done with particular purpose. Fasting is not fine when it’s used as a punishment for being bad with your food. No need to turn this into an eating disorder.

Carnivorous Diet: How to Get Started – My Way

Over the past 21 months (hard to think it’s been that long!), I’ve seen many successes and failures and had my own chance to get started in a positive way. I wanted to share this with you, in case you’re just starting out or planning to start, and are not quite sure if you should move forward or continue.

My 10 tips for success on Carnivore:

1. Meat, salt, and water for 90 days, minimum. When I say meat, I mean ruminants (cow, goat, sheep, deer, elk, moose, buffalo, bison, gazelle, mammoth), and organs if you wish to include them. If you haven’t resolved all of your issues in 90 days and want to quit, I urge you to keep going and experiment with different animal foods, fat ratios, organs, what-have-you.

2. You have a list of health problems that you are hoping to resolve, and most people have a single most important issue they want to deal with. Most often, they will quit if this one major issue is not resolved in a set amount of time. THIS IS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE. You didn’t put yourself in this situation in 30, 60, or 90 days, so stop having too high of expectations for immediate relief!

3. Organs if you wish, or if you are actually deficient, or if you like organs. Bone marrow is nice. Liver is great, too, but mind the carbs if deeper ketosis is your goal.

4. Don’t fear fat; in fact, eat more of it. Best bet in my opinion, when dealing with say, a ribeye (a nice fatty one), cut the fat off and eat that first until you feel full-ish, then finish off the lean. This will ensure adequate energy and micronutrient substrate is put to the forefront.

5. AVOID DAIRY at first. Unless you’re one of the lucky 1% (made-up number), dairy may make you fatter and inflamed and may stall your progress and slow your digestion of the important food: meat.

6. Eggs are a great superfood, if you tolerate them. For some people, they can cause digestive issues. Get pastured eggs if you can afford them. These are the highest quality eggs. If you can buy direct from the producer locally, that’s your best and cheapest option. There’s also Vital Farms sold in some grocery stores, they are the next-best but sometimes pricey. Pastured eggs are characterized by a dark orange yolk. These are extremely high in vitamins compared to commercial, cage-free and free range eggs. If you can’t get local or Vital Farms, omega 3 eggs are the next logical step. These are from flax-fed chickens and at least get you the benefit of higher omega 3.

7. Grass finished vs. Grain finished – All cows in the US are grass-fed. The difference is in the finishing. Grass-finished cows spend their life on pasture, whereas grain-finished spend a few months at the end of life on feedlot for faster fattening. As far as nutrition goes, there is very little difference. My advice is to eat what you like and can afford!

8. 90 DAYS DOES NOT MEAN ADAPTATION. Adaptation can take over a year for some people, it depends on how metabolically deranged you’ve managed to get yourself by eating foods that you are poorly-adapted to (plants).

9. KETO-ADAPTATION DOES NOT MEAN CARNIVORE-ADAPTATION. There’s a big difference between simply being fat-adapted (burning fatty acids preferentially over glucose for energy) and being carnivore-adapted. Adaptation to carnivore is further beyond that. You’ve killed off harmful fiber-fermenting bacteria in the gut and replaced it with more diverse and putrefactive bacteria instead. I’ll say again, adaptation can take over a year.

10. BE PATIENT AND STICK WITH IT.

Help a Friend – #Yes2Meat

Faithful friends, I have a request for you. Please, if you value your ability to continue to thrive on meat, consider donating or becoming a patron of my good friend, Alexander Danes. Alex is writing up some research that hopes to debunk commonly-held misconceptions associated with meat consumption and sustainability.

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**Announcement** – New Domain! CarnivoreMuscle.com!

Heads-up! I am now the owner of carnivoremuscle.com! This should hopefully motivate me to create more content and make the domain purchase worth it! Instead of spending the majority of my time on instagram (who am I kidding?), I will instead devote more time to putting up information, guides, videos, and soon, interviews!

So head on over to…….here! See you soon!

-Dread

About the Author: My Brief Dietary History

I figured it is about time I spent some time here creating the backstory for you. My name’s Chris Bement, I’m a 35 year old male in the USA. Back in 2011, my wife, Laura, and I became pregnant, while I was on my first “bulk” (which means, eat mac and cheese and cereal in addition to all of your meals and get fat). Prior to this, I had never been particularly muscular, but also never particularly fat. I had followed scooby1969’s advice for a while, as well as some strength programs such as stronglifts, but nothing really groundbreaking and with no great consistency.

The goal at the time was to get up to 200 pounds and then “cut”, though I didn’t actually know how to do this, I was following some random forum member on an old strength forum I used to frequent. At the time I was following the 5/3/1 (original template) program by Jim Wendler, because the internet had convinced me that aesthetics were not my goal and I should be super strong! I had to be a powerlifter, although I had no desire, really, to be one at the time.

This was me post-“bulk” on the left back in 2011. On the right is me in early 2019.

Anyhow, I hit my goal of 200 pounds, and we found out we were pregnant around the same time. That’s when all metabolic hell broke loose. My beautiful 5 foot 2, 98 pound wife can basically eat whatever she wants without gaining a pound. So, we went on the pregnancy diet, which meant Chef Boyardee canned ravioli and ginger ale, both of which were always on sale somewhere for 10 / $10.00. What a steal.

So I got fat. I probably made it to around 235 pounds in the ensuing 8 years. Perhaps higher, I stopped weighing myself, and I stopped taking photos because I just didn’t want to look at myself. It meant I would have to accept the fact that skinny Chris was obese.

So throughout this time I experimented with various approaches to weightroom-focused ketogenic diets. From those prescribed by T-Nation’s Christian Thibodeau, to Chaos and Pain’s Jamie Lewis (the Apex Predator Diet), to Ketogains TKD and CKD protocols (not crediting ketogains with creating those protocols, just with promoting them as mainstream).

Using 5/3/1 and later using Jamie Lewis’s “Destroy the Opposition: Advanced Squat Specialists” program, I managed to get my powerlifting gym total up over 1000; 225 bench, 385 low bar squat, and a 405 mixed-grip deadlift. After that I fell out and gave up, and also got a new job and stopped being unemployed.

So, I took some years off again. I ate whatever, I didn’t train. I made myself fat again, and always felt like shit.

Bring about 2016. In August of 2016, I was supervising a job, having drunk 6 IPAs the night before. I was completely miserable, and I had no idea why such a small amount of booze was causing me the worst hangover of my life. For the first time ever, I chose to quit alcohol for good (and I stayed quit, I can count on one hand the number of drinks I’ve had since that fateful day). This was the first step in regaining my youthful health, and I did indeed feel better for the rest of that year. But that winter, I was still not liking how I looked and felt.

In January of 2017, I listened to an episode of the Joe Rogan podcast, where he interviewed Rhonda Patrick – I had already heard Joe was keto, and he spoke so well about it that I was pretty well set on getting back there at some point. And I had even been intermittent fasting just out of habit (though, without any fat loss). Rhonda turned me on to one-meal-a-day fasting. And explained it so well that I had to give up my processed, frozen foods diet and try something new.

So I went to the grocery store and bought up a ton of sausages, cheddar cheese, some yogurt, and the ingredients for a wicked kale shake (thanks a lot, Joe Rogan).

Throughout the early winter and spring of 2017, I ate one meal a day, which was lunch at work. It consisted of 5 to 6 links, a pile of cheddar, a cup or two of Greek yogurt, and a massive, grassy, kale shake.

I managed to diet down from over 235, to about 175 pounds by July. And during that time I scoured the web for more information on fasting. I found out about the ketogenic forums, about Dr. Jason Fung, and about the fasting subreddit.

One day I was on the fasting subreddit, and there was a post discussing post-fast diet. I had been experimenting with 2-3 day fasts by this point and was a staunch keto zealot. But someone in the comments of this particular post happened to link to r/zerocarb.

This is where I tripped and fell into the carnivore rabbit hole. I read testimonials and scientific data from Amber O’Hearn, the Bear (Owsley Stanley), Vilhjalmur Stefansson, Charles Washington, and the like. I heard stories from Kelly Hogan, Joe and Charlene Andersen, and Shawn Baker.

So, right around my birthday, July 13, 2017, I became a carnivore. Forever. I recall my parents taking me out to Texas Roadhouse, choosing my ribeye, and the waiter’s uneasy look when I told him to keep the sides.

By October of 2017, I was still fasting weekly, but also started working out at home doing pullups (now that I was lighter) and using a kettlebell. But this only got me itching to get back into a squat rack. So I joined the nearest commercial gym (non-planet fitness, mind you) to my office, which happened to be the Edge. And I began to get started rebuilding my base. I was there every morning at 5 am.

In November, on Veteran’s day, I had an accident. I cut my ring and pinky fingers on my right hand with a steak knife while washing the dishes. I managed to sever one tendon in my ring finger, and two tendons in my pinky. I had to have urgent surgery to repair them, right around Thanksgiving. I recall still maintaining diet. And for dinner that holiday, I ate a drumstick.

So I had my surgery, and began PT, and by January of 2018 I had recovered enough to be released back to the gym. At the time I could only do 3 pullups without straps, due to my greatly-diminished grip strength. But I vowed to do better (and did).

Since then I’ve hopped to a few different programs, first toward strength as I was used to, but then started to lean more toward aesthetics, toward muscle hypertrophy. Toward looking jacked as fuck. I tried out PHUL, then PHAT (these are some intermediate bodybuilding programs, you can look them up and use them for free on the web). And am currently using a custom program based on some of Pavel Tsatsouline’s principles of irradiation (but geared toward being large).

I decided I needed a goal to work toward, so currently my plan is to step on the natural bodybuilding stage sometime next year or the year after, depending on just how big I can get by 2020.

Right now I am performing my first test “cut” as a mock contest prep. My current weekly menu consists of a single meal of ground beef, 22 oz. It’s approximately 90/10 ground beef. I needed to keep the calories as low as possible but keep the protein as high as possible. So far since January 14, I am down 20 pounds and looking leaner every day. I started to notice new striations in my shoulders this morning, which made me very happy.

Anyway, that’s the abbreviated version of my trip through health so far. I have been a carnivore for a year and a half as of this month, and I have never enjoyed better health. I hope you’ll all share your stories with me when the time comes. Thanks for reading.

Some Info About Why a Carnivorous Diet is Optimal as Opposed to a Plant-Based Disaster – What’s so dangerous about plants?

There are a plethora of reasons why one might choose to embark on a paleolithic ketogenic, zero carb, or carnivore diet (hint: all 3 are the same). Below are some of them, in no particular order:

1. Autoimmune disorders – this can be skin conditions, chronic illnesses, you name it
2. Reduce inflammation
3. Reduce oxidative stress
4. Improve sports endurance
5. Improve body composition (lose fat, gain muscle)
6. Improve mood
7. Improve cognition
8. Repair metabolic damage such as insulin resistance or type 2 diabletes
9. Reset your metabolism
10. Improve digestion
11. Fix gut problems such as IBS, leaky gut, or colitis
12. Improve microbiome diversity
13. Break reliance on sugar for energy
14. Treat or cure T2 Diabetes and insulin resistance

Take a minute and read that list over again. Does it sound legit? I doubt you think so, but you’d be wrong. Let’s take a moment and go over exactly what a carnivorous diet is, how to implement it, how long a person should run it, and what goes on in the body that makes all of this possible without eating a single plant.

Lectins, oxalates, salicylate, etc.

You  might think that to be successful in a low carb diet, it’s okay to have nuts, seeds, certain oils, and green veggies. Frankly, and for most people (they don’t know it yet or pass it off as a hormetic need), these compounds act as toxins or antinutrients.

Lectins are a protein contained in the protective coatings of seeds. In a nutshell (lmao), they act as a sort of nut “immune system”; fending off attackers. There are also lectins found in meat and animal foods, but it’s important to understand the difference between the two. Animal lectins are known to have no harmful effect on animals; however plant lectins can come with any number of issues if ingested (again, you wouldn’t even think to blame the plant food normally, this sounds so outrageous).

Major sources of lectins include but are not limited to: grains, nuts, seeds, beans, limes, tomatoes, white potatoes, and cinnamon.

What do plant lectins do when humans ingest them? Lectins attach themselves to living cells, specifically to carbohydrates on the surface of cells. They have been shown in laboratory studies to damage said cells and can lead to conditions like leaky gut syndrome, rheumatoid arthritis, Celiac’s, MS, and type 1 diabetes.

Oxalates are some of the most common phytotoxins. In brief, a phytotoxin is a plant’s chemical defense against being eaten. Oxalates are found in a large variety of plant foods. Oxalates are corrosive compounds, and they have been linked to a number of issues, most notably, interfering with the absorption of iron, calcium, and magnesium in the body. One minute, you think you’re eating healthy, micronutrient-rich green veggies, the next you’re not actually getting any of that good nutrition because the oxalates have blocked you from absorbing it.

Salicylates are signaling compounds utilized by plants to protect themselves from being eaten by insects (or humans). A commonly-known salicylate is aspirin. Other foods containing salicylates are almonds, applies, apricots, berries, cherries, currants, grapes, nectarines, oranges, peaches, plumbs, tangerines, cucumbers, green peppers, tomatoes, cloves, coffee, tea, coconuts, and wintergreen.

Some people have a decreased ability to properly metabolize these compounds and excrete them. Salicylates are linked to rheumatoid arthritis and inflammatory bowel disease. Nasty stuff.

Digestion and fiber

You do not need any fiber in order to have healthy digestion. I repeat, you do not need any fiber in order to have healthy digestion. 
When is the last time you heard someone complain to their doctor that their stool is not bulky enough, or that transit is taking too long? I’ll wait.
Give up? They don’t. It’s a manufactured problem. Fiber, in fact, causes constipation, it causes hemorrhoids, as a result of said constipation. I can tell you, and this is definitely TOO MUCH INFORMATION, that I’d been chronically constipated my entire life. Age 0 to 34. Since going carnivore, I have not once been constipated.
How does that work? It’s pretty simple, actually. Humans have stomach acid pH similar to other carnivores, particularly the scavengers. What does that mean? It means we have the tools to easily break down and digest raw, rotten meat (some people DO actually enjoy this).
When meat is the only thing on the menu, something different happens with your digestion. The meat dissolves and liquefies in the stomach acid over the next hour or two after eating. Once that happens, it’s off to the small intestine where all of the nutrition is extracted for use. What’s left for the colon? Not very much. If you’ve hung around carnivore groups at all, a common newbie question is asking about being constipated. There’s a big difference between having to poop and not being able to pass it, and not having anything to pass. If you’re a carnivore, it’s probably the latter. Just wait longer.
Some further reading on gastric juices and how meat is dissolved: https://books.google.com/books?id=H6F4_9joRkgC&pg=PA1&dq=gastric+juice#v=onepage&q=gastric%20juice&f=false

Vitamins and micronutrients

Plant-derived vitamins and minerals are generally not bio-available for humans. This means you can take a vitamin pill and it will have less than the purported effect. The animal-sourced versions of these vitamins are absolutely usable by humans. See: Pastured eggs, red meat, beef liver/kidneys.

The USDA says that beef contains no vitamin C. The USDA also admitted (it’s still on their website if you would like to look) that they never tested for it. Scurvy should have developed in me well over a year ago – fortunately I’m still scurv-free.

Post 0 – Introduction

Hi. I’m Chris Bement, better known as Dread. I’ve been lifting for a few years, and have followed a paleolithic ketogenic or carnivore diet for over a year now. This blog is to be used to pick apart and disseminate information that will help ordinary people heal their bodies and get closer to their health goals by utilizing this method of dietary hacking.

I must admit right here and right now that I am not a doctor, I am not qualified to give medical advice, and I urge you to check with your medical practitioner before beginning any dietary changes. I didn’t, personally, but it’s my responsibility to advise you to do so. I am also not a dietitian, nutritionist, or sports trainer and won’t claim to be as knowledgeable as one of these folks. Though, from time to time, I may refer to some of them as morons.

Some plans, and I hope to deliver on all of these in the near future:

1. Weekly or bi-weekly blog articles. I am writing a good chunk of these now so I have a few to release over time and can work on other things. So please be patient while I ramp these up.

2. Semi-often youtube videos. Not sure what the content or format will be for these, but they will be kept brief and will include things like exercise or mobility tips, cooking and recipes, rants, and mini-science injections.

3. Presence on Instagram – live videos, stories and photo posts.

4. Presence on Twitter – mostly just shit talking and retweeting those more in-the-know, coupled with motivational stuff.

5. Podcast – I’d like to do a mostly one-man show. Perhaps weekly episodes with just me, and maybe I’ll branch out into having a guest once a month. Podcasting would be my preferred method of getting content to you, mainly because it’s convenient. You can listen while exercising, driving, working, whatever you’d like. Much easier than reading my stuff here or even watching videos.

I’ll get more updates for you soon on these. I will be starting a new youtube channel for this network so I will post that link when it’s ready. For now, my current social stuff, located in the side-bar to your right.

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With that said, hit me up. Ask away. First official post will be a brief primer on how to get into carnivory in an effort to begin the metabolic healing process.